Ok so for a while I have tried to keep out of the political issues because I was tired of all the crap. But the Muslims are pissing me off.
First of all it is not a religion of peace. If they were a religious group of peace then when someone says something bad about them they would not riot, or throw fire bombs at churches on the West Bank, or shoot to death a nun in Somalia, or burn images in the streets of the pope.
You are a bunch of FLIPPIN Morons. All you want is an excuse to go on a rampage and blame it on someone hurting your feelings. Some of us here in America learn something when we are little kids...Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. (However the tree hugging hippie libs in this country are like you idiots and start crying and crap when people hurt their feelings.)
You don't see me getting all upset and calling for protest and riots because you are burning figures of the pope in streets. I not throwing fire bombs at mosques here in the US. You are doing exactly what the pope said, spreading violence and evil. You can call me whatever you want but I am still not going to strap 20 pounds of explosives to my chest and run into a school because you mad me "upset" !!!! Your religion and its leaders are full of evil and violence. Mohammed is a jackass and you can wage your little jihad all you want. But please stop crying you bunch of babies and stop blaming your need to blow shit up on how your feelings got hurt because someone told the truth about your crappy religion.
You want apologies...Well so do I for the following from the Muslim leaders.
1. The 3000+ dead on 9/11
2. The bombing of the USS Cole
3. The bombing of the US Embassies
4. The 168 dead in Madrid
5. The 54 dead in London
6. The Taliban destruction of centuries old Buddhist statues
7. The millions dead in Darfur
8. The declaration of war on Christianity
9. For making Jews wear stars of David on their sleeves in Tehran
10. For making Hindus wear symbols on their clothes in Iran
11. For threatening to behead a Christian in Afghanistan for converting to Christianity
12. For banning bibles in Saudi Arabia
13. For burning the American flag in your streets
14. For beheading US citizens in Iraq
15. For burning images of the pope in your streets
16. For threatening to wipe Israel off the map
17. For continuing to push your followers to protest this stupid situation
AND
18. For the 1.5 billion F'IN idiotic followers that are threatening world civilization !!!!!!!!
The list can still go on but I am tired of this crap. Maybe if your leaders come out with apologies for the above I might start to give a rat's ass about you, your religion, or your opinions. Until then go back to the shithole you call a home and stop trying to ruin the world. On second thought, not even an apology for the above would make think you are more than just a pack of crazy f'in idiots.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
17 comments:
an impressive list of boo boos, no-nos and downright nasty things.. ooh...
but, what about our nasty little habits? like ignoring the world and invading a country that had not threatened us? and look at all of the nasty things we did to iran? like supporting Saddam when he gassed them?
come on, the "Muslims" are no more dangerous than we are, actually we are more dangerous, we have the bomb already,, and... humm, come to think of it, we used it...on a city, no 2 cities crammed with ... umm civilians.
I believe that was your crucial defining aspect as to what made a "terrorist"...
lets get our collective heads on straight and ask why these things are done in the name of a peace loving religion like Islam...
When are you going to pull your head out of your ass and realize that they don't give a crap about anyone unless they are Muslim.
So you don't think anything on that list is a big deal. The muslims are asking for an apology for something that was said about their religion. Something that was SAID. Were they physically hurt in any way. So if I say you are a complete idiot are you going to start crying and rioting at my house until I apologize??? Oh poor little muslims someone talked crap about them that is the truth. Look at what they did when someone SAYS something they don't like....They start violence, riot and even kill. Oh no but that is not a true statement that the Pope made. It is true and they just proved it. Or were you too busy drinking a crapacinno and worrying about how bad they must be feeling to see that on the news.
Here are my responses to what you call our "nasty little habis"
"Ignoring the world and invading a country that had not threatened us" I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES THINK OF US. I would love to ignore a bunch of them especially when they are the first to talk shit about us but when they have a natural disaster or something the first country they ask for help from is the U.S.
And do you really think we would use the bomb as a first strike weapon. If you do then you really are ignorant. Yes we used it before in a world war. That was the 1940's. We have come a long way since then. And what is acceptable n war has changed over the past 60 years. Blowing up civilians on purpose is terrorism. And that is what these fanatical idiots do.
Oh yeah sure let's all sit down in a big circle, hold hands, chant, do yoga, hug a few trees, talk about their feelings and talk about why these things are done. Open your eyes, Islam is NOT a peace loving religion.
Here are my questions for you
1. Why are you so much against the United States
2. Why do you want us to lose in Iraq, after all you seem to support our enemies.
3. If you hate this country so much why don't you become a citizen of another country
4. Why don't you and the rest of the liberals have any common sense
the ol'love it or leave it standby..
forget it. What you miss is that I dont hate my country, maybe I am more patriotic than you are...
I dont want to lose Iraq, i dont want to win Iraq, this isnt the 40s remember? We shouldnt be there, period. And thats all there is too it.
there is nothing wrong with pointing out our mistakes and shortcomings, they are just words right?
Why is it that thats the one free speech that gets under your skin.
You cant paint a brush over millions of Muslims due to some fantastic actions of a few.
You and your conservative comrades are changing the country I know and love, so why dont you move to another country and create your own fascist like state? I like my democracy here, imperfect, but protestable.
And we havent learned. We havent changed, and 60 years is not long enough for us to see the light.
We do in fact target civilians.
What makes you think I am liberal?
Ok, here we go.
First what makes you think you are more patriotic than me. What have you done for this country besides bitch and complain? Do you at least vote? I dont really care if you stay or go. All I am saying is that if you hate it that much why don't you leave.
And it doesn't get under my skin when people speak freely. But everything you say is against the U.S.
And do you really know what fascism means??? Let me school you for a minute.
"Fascism - A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control."
After everything I have said on this blog how does that make me a fascist. I don't believe in dictatorships or any of the above. After all it was the Dems that censored a TV show about 9-11 because it made them look bad.
And we have changed over the past 60 years and are still changing. Give me one fact that our military today is targeting civilians....One, that is all I am asking for. Were you in the military? Were you trained to target civilians? Since you have no clue I will enlighten you that the training received by soldiers is one in which targeting civilians is prohibited. If we didn't learn anything from WWII and if we are still in the practice of targeting civilians then we would have already nuked a few towns in Iraq by now.
Can you not see the difference between the riots in Budapest and the Muslim riots?????? Are you that much of a complete moron.
The riots in Budapest are internal. They are not calling for Budapestians all over the world to riot in the streets. The muslims are. Apples and oranges. And so the rioting in Budapest is there own damn problem.
So why anger towards the Muslims you say, well read the original post. The Muslim so called leaders and the leaders of muslim majority countries don't say crap about the things I listed in the original post. They push for more portest with usually leads to riots. They want everyone to respect their religion yet they dont respect any one elses. You of all people I would expect to understand that this anti-Christian movement is wrong. I would think a tree huggin hippie like you would want everyone to just get along and everyone can do or believe whatever they want. But since the muslims hate America and Israel like you it is ok what they do.
And I don't believe that my own coutnry is doing anything bad. And that is one thing you and I will never agree on I know.
there is no way to come to an agreement here.
I can only give an analogy to my position:
Imagine a football team, and we are both on the team, contributing the same, desiring to win... but we are losing, or in my opinion, we are setting ourselves up for losses in the future.. and I am complaining about the methods. This doesnt mean I dont want to be on the team any longer. And its not for you to tell me to get off the team because I have a problem with our strategy.
We are losing, again. How can that not be a bad thing? How can not playing with a sense of honor, to the discredit of our own reputation, not be a bad thing?
I dont see every thing that we do is wrong, but am amazed at how you can see nothing we do as wrong.
We are losing, again.
Ok, abdullah, I have read enough.
I think my over-caffeinated cousin is getting a little excited, but I agree with his core.
I am not telling you get off the team. I am telling you to get in the game.
You are right, we should have sat idly by, as Saddam Hussein continued to commit acts of genocide against the Shiite's (who hate us too, still, even though we have saved their collective asses).
You are right, we should leave Iran alone, and let them build nuclear weaponry, which by the way they are VERY prepared to sell to any terrorist group that they and Saudi Arabia are funding.
You are right, we haven't learned anything since the 1940's, we have nuked several other countries like... uhh... hmmm... uhh... oh wait, didn't we sign a few nuclear disarmament agreements???
I ask you. Why should we get involved in all these conflicts?
Why, because we are a diverse society made up of "mostly" assimillated individuals from all over the world. And when something happens to one of their family members somewhere else in the world, they DEMAND that their new country get involved. "Ohhh, help my cousin in Afghanistan... the Taliban killed his wife and kids", "Ohhh, help my aunt in Somalia, they are rioting and raping all the local village women, and killing innocent bystanders", "Ohhh, help my grand parents, they are in Panama and the dictator is executing dissidents"...
You wanna know WHY we get involved??? Crap man, its the very diversity of our country that requires it. If he doesn't get involved, the President gets slammed, if does get involved he gets slammed. Being the President is a tough job, but it requires that you think of the best interests of the people.
And, for the record, I am not anti-Islam/Muslim. I am pro any religion that helps a person communicate with their concept of God, and give them guidance and comfort. However, I cannot say that I am going to support a religion's argument that they are not a violent religion when the "peace loving ones" won't help us root out the "bad apples". When your religion has a special word, like "jihad", give me a break...
And, to respond to your analogy about a football team, you are the dad in the stands who complains because his boy doesn't start, while Texan15 is the player on the field.
And, (man I had good coffee this morning, brain is firing on all cylinders), I respect your right to have an opinion, I just completely disagree with you.
How is Allah, anyway?
hey dipshit, we got involved in Iraq a long time ago, when WE supplied him with chemical weapons to gas the iranians and the kurds,. we did that.
Im not saying Im not for the team, putz, im saying we are playing cricket, when we should be playing football. we are fighting the wrong people, you shmuck. If we are going to fight terrorists, then lets do so.
Here is what we should have done:
Gone after the Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, no doubt, and kept going after them until we got them all.
Poured more resources in that country to make it prosperous(we did have a hand in destroying it in the firstplace)
EVALUATED why someone would want to attack us. EXAMINE our own policies and see why we created so much hatred.
STAY OUT of Iraq, who posed no threat to us, no nukes, no terrorists.
Utilized our then save resources to put the squeeze on IRAN.
Put your head on straight.
no sympathy for that Hard Job, he asked, and paid off people for it..
Ok, abdullah. I see what I am dealing with here. I came at you with my argument, and you came at me with yours. But, I am not sure at what point this grown-up, mature, adult conversation resulted in calling me a "dipshit", "putz", and a "shmuck"???
I would have been willing to concede a few valid points you made (regarding us providing the chemmical weapons and such), but when you result in your argument to name calling and making an issue a personal attack...
Hell, I figure you must be a muslim.
but you didnt concede those points did you, until after i got your attention.
Listen, i am not a muslim, and tex knows who i am. i rarely use ad hominum attacks, but everything that comes from you guys is all so one-sided, never givin an inch, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
for example, I have no problem criticizing our government when it is in the wrong and many times it is. According to Tex and his buddies that makes me an tree huggin hippie who wants to lay down to the muslim hordes.. unrepentant, and unsalvagable. its a game. The US is always right, and anyone who has the slightest disagreement is unworthy to talk to, and should leave the country.
Since you said you are willing to concede some of my points, then here is the final unmovable position:
Iraq was a mistake, in conception, planning, action, and justifications. Period. We acted like a wounded animal after 911 and that is not worthy of our standards. I believe we have a special responsibility to the world, as the only superpower. I dont believe that people evolve, it was only 60 years ago that we bombed civilians with nuclear weapons. 40 years ago we had actual plans for doing it again in Vietnam. 5 years ago we threatened Pakistan with bombing them to the Stone Age. I dont believe we should torture people, as this is not up to our standards. If this nation cannot be above the actions of the rest of this barbaric world, then it truely is a hopeless place, and I will go to a place that has at least better food.
All other points are negotiable and worth listening to. And no more attacks on the person.
Ok here goes....
Let's take your analogy of a football team. We are all on the same team striving for the same goals to win. If we are losing that doesn't mean you just give up and/or slam the caoch. You don't divide the team just because you are losing. You pull together and stand united against your opponent (or enemy). The worst thign you can do is show them that you are divided. You will never win this way. Whether you wanted to play or not you are still on the team.
I believe that we should have gone into Iraq. I think GW jumped the gun on when was the right time to go in. We had no exit strategy and hell we had no strategy on what to do if/when groups rose up against our troops. That should have been in their planning. Hell it seems that once Saddam was captured and the government toppled everyone stood around like a bunch of morons wondering what to do next. The planning on a military aspect was all wrong. We had plenty of firepower but not enough planning.
And how does "EVALUATED why someone would want to attack us. EXAMINE our own policies and see why we created so much hatred." help us out with anything. To sit around and discuss this is ridiculous. They have attacked us for years and you just now want us to sit down and think about why...They hate us because we support Israel and because we are not Muslim. Plan and simple.
Like I said before, I don't care whether you or any one else stay in the US or not. My point to saying why don't you leave is because everything you say is so negative towards the U.S. that I just wonder why you are still here and not in Canada or Mexico by now.
And your right that people don't evolve, but society does, and what was acceptable in wars in the past is not acceptable now. Chemical weapons were acceptable before and now they are not. Same with Nukes. I don't believe a nuke should ever be used. I don't believe the a-bomb should have been used in WWII. We were already pushings the Japanese back and had already bombed Tokyo with Doolittle's raid showing them that they were not untouchable.
well, thanks for tempering your tone, Tex.
after so many losses, eventually the coach does get fired. I dont think i ever said quit, unfortunately i see that we cannot. but the coach should go.
I dont think we should have gone to war in Iraq, not one of the things we used to justify it were ever true.
good night, may the peace of Allah be with you and all my pot-smoking mexican friends too.
Lastly, abdullah, you are stating (as Tex and I have been) opinion as fact. If it was fact, then this would be a moot point, would it not? That is the beauty of this country, we can all have an opinion and stand firmly behind it. I will disagree with Tom about you (a collective of anyone disagreeing with "us") should have to leave the country because of your opinion, but for all the things the government is doing wrong in your opinion, please reflect on what they are doing right!
It takes a LOT of people a LOT of effort, time, and money, to keep our idea of civilized democracy alive! Third world countries, middle eastern kingdoms, and communistic/fascist/dictatorships/etc (later reference REGIMES) are NOT willing to give up the greed and power that comes with having no middle class in their societies.
Praise to allah that I can drive to/from my house to work and enjoy my freedom with family and friends. A luxury many in this world don't get to choose.
Regarding Iraq, we just disagree. You are right, we didn't FIND any WMDs. Hell, I picture that movie SpaceBalls where the knuckleheads are literally "combing" the desert. Imagine all the real estate that has not been searched. Why would Saddam be so secretive if there is nothing to hide? He was dealing with the UN, not the US. It boils down to these REGIMES desire for more world power than their societies are prepared to handle.
All aside, I respect your right to your opinion, but I disagree with you.
Fair enough, but should we not question the logic of the war then? How, in Tom/Texs view, can we be doing everything right, when we were wrong about so many things? How, can you stand by the idea that there were weapons, we just havent found them? And if we did find them, we gave them to him? And being a dictator with land grabbin aspirations, when we encouraged it? and being a genocidal maniac when we turned a blind eye to it? Calling it a war on terror implies that it is related to 911 when clearly it wasnt? these are my opinions, but also facts. This should raise flags in all our heads.. and thats not an invitation to quit, or lie down. But if these errors were caused by misjudgements, are we not misjudging what it means to win? What is winning in this case?
Should we not all be active in the dialogue of how we should treating prisoners, how this affects our liberties, how we are judged, how this affects our relationships with world(and that is important), if the reasons for us going to war are questionable? The thing that is important to me is that I actually believe the myths that our country advertises like shampoo on the television. I believe in the all those inalienable rights, freedoms and other bullshit. Is that too liberal? To hastily brush them aside shakens me. If we cant convince the world and ourselves of the moral superiority of our cause, then something is really wrong.
Praise be to Buddha.
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