Ok so the MLS (major league soccer team) changed it's name from Houston 1836 to Houston Dynamo. Tonight I went out and bought several shirts for HOUSTON 1836. I don't know if I can support the team now by going to any games because I am totally disgusted with this flippin issue. However, if I do I will wear my Houston 1836 shirt proudly. If any of you have lived or visited Houston you know that the people here are very proud of our city and our state. Especially the native Texans and 4th generation Houstonians like me. This was a name I could be proud of and get behind. Now I don't know that I can so much. Here are my issues with this.
1. We are in America not Mexico
2. How in the FLIPPIN HELL is a soccer team name offensive to Mexican Americans? Seriously? Really I am very interested in how this is hurting you? Do you still cry yourself to sleep at night because Texas won it's independence. I am Serious!!!!! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME? I could understand if it was the Houston Illegals or some other derogatory name. Hell even the Houton Crackers or Rednecks might piss people off. I would personally care if they did call them the Crakcers or Rednecks. It's just a flippin name you sissy.
3. This is the year Houston was established. It also happens to be the year that Texas won it's independence and the battle of the Alamo. And your point that this is being offensive is how?
4. We defeated Santa Anna....get over it. It was a long time ago. You don't hear me bitching about the Vietnamese street signs that are posted in a certain part of Houston even though we got smoked in that conflict.
5. You don't hear British Americans bitching and crying about the name Philadelphia 76'ers.
6. You say Mexican Americans need to be heared and need to have a voice? Then stop bitching about ridiculous crap like this. There are moe inportant issues to discuss than the name of a FLIPPIN soccer team that is named after the year the CITY was established. Not the year we kicked Mexico's ass. If you don't like it then move back to Mexico and let me know how you like living there.
Anyway this post was suppose to just state that I bought some 1836 stuff. It's just the fact that this whole thing is FLIPPIN RIDICULOUS.
10 comments:
Hey Texan
I agree its a small issue. However, you see it from the POV of a (i assume) white Texan. You may feel differently if you were a Mexican or Mexican American. The countrys history regarding the MA is quite dismal. Many Mexican citizens of Mexican decent sided with the Texans and wanted to break away from Mexico, only to be mistreated and have their land stolen after the whites took over. Not to mention all the others who were here and still wanted to be in Mexico. you say it was a long time ago, but maybe it doesnt feel that way when you have brown skin and you are painfully aware of being lower status.. This is something you dont feel on a regular basis. The Constitution is much older, but you still (i assume) hold that document as a current law and cherish as such...
what, no anonymous posting? come on..
Texan,
I whole heartedly agree with you. It's just silly. If I went to Mexico and saw a team who's mascot was a Gringo, I would not be offended and more than likely laugh about it. It seems like the only ethnicity that it is PC to poke fun of is the American white male protestant.
People are just way to sensative. Lighten up!
I guess the PC people of our country think we should re-write our history books so as not to offend anyone. If we renamed all of our sports teams just some random numerical value (Ex: Team 1, Team 2, Team 3, etc.) We would have some liberal weenie journalist doing an indepth interview with a mathmatician whose feelings are hurt.
Mateo
You have got to be kidding me. Seriously I don't understand how a soccer team name offends people when it was for the year the city was founded. Which also was the year Texas won it's independence. These people that are crying had no part in that event, nor their father, grandfathers or probably their great granfathers. They are benefiting from this state and this country so why aren't they happy. If Texas was still a part of Mexico I doubt it would be anything like it is today. ie. the state economy. I think it is total crap. These are probably the same kind of people that would get offended by walking past a monument of the ten comandments. It is not hurting you. If you don't like it don't read or support it.
Scott - There would probably be other teams would be offended because they are not "Team 1" because everyone should feel like they are 1st so nobody gets their "Feelings" hurt. Bunch of flippin sissies.
Texan
As I said before, it is a small issue. However, we are speaking from a white persons point of view, and maybe we cant put ourselves in their shoes.
The name and the year may very well be offensive. And maybe they werent part of it, but you should be able to see that it can still bring emotions(remember how fired up you got when longhorn "offended" your forefathers? you werent there, why get so pissed?
Scott,
Rewriting history is not always a bad thing, especially when the history is so clouded by years of silly myths. I grew up wth the stories of the Alamo and Crockett and them bad mesicans.. but there is much more too it than you would like to admit, as goes for our current situation. It is not a black and white issue, but, it is a race issue. Benefitting from this state/country is the way you guys percieve it, may not be how they percieve it. The history of texas is long, complicated and not always pretty....
ya all come back now, ya hear...
Bowie
Offending the forefathers and crying over a name are 2 totally different things. The team name was 1836 for the year Houston was established. Which also happened to be the year of the Alamo and when we won our independence. Let me repeat that...THE TEAM WAS NAMED AFTER THE YEAR THE CITY OF HOUSTON WAS ESTABLISHED. I cannot at all see where this would bring emotions. Like I said before, you don't hear a bunch of British-Americans crying over the Philadelphia 76'ers. And why does everyone call them Mexican-Americans or African-Americans? When do you ever see anyone referred to as an Irish-American, European-American, Australian-American? To me we are all Americans and I am a Texan. PCness is a bunch of total BSness.
Dave
I am speaking from a "European-American" point of view. So what. Why does everything have to be because of color. We are Americans. I am a native Texan. I am a 4th generation Houstonian. I am proud of my city, my state, and my country. These people complaining are Americans too. They have a different heritage than I do. There are Americans with heritage from every part of the world. We are Americans. I still don't understand how a team name is offensive.
Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Bunch of flippin cry babies
I guess you would have to be a native Texan who loves the state in order to understand. Are these people who are crying Mexicans first then Americans. Or are they Americans with a Mexican background?
Texan
it goes on and on.. you speak from a different perspective and cant seem to understand the offense that race brings. It is a racial issue, but if you cant have the experience of being the downtrodden just because of the color of your skin or the name that you were born with, then you are getting worked up for nothing as well...
and I dont buy that "you have to be Texan to understand" crap. if you think that, then , why cant you say "you'd have to be black or mexican to understand the controversy"?
see what I mean?
What I meant was you have to be a Texan to know the pride and love for one's state.
And if you want to talk about the downtrodden because of the color of skin, ok we we go.
I am white. I could not get into some of the colleges that I wanted because of that. Because I was a white male with good SAT scores, not great but good. A white male who ranked 17th in my high school class. But because I was not a minority I wasn't accepted. I need to have a near perfect SAT score. So did I go out protesting and crying. No I worked and paid for my schooling myself. No one has handed me anything because I am white. Everything I have and everything I am is a result of my hard work. Whites are always made fun of by black and hispanic comedians. If you saw a white comedian telling jokes about people who have a different skin color they would be called a racist and a huge controversy would explode. If someone were to establish the United White College Fund they would be sued faster than you could imagine. Is this racism? I think so. So palying the "color" card is total BS.
Maybe Texas should secede from the US and become a Republic again. Then maybe we could limit the liberal tree hugging hippie's influence and bring back common sense into society.
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